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awesome!

sup?

well, i haven't updated in some while, but anywayz herz wuts new wit me!!

i am now an Official Member of the Ontario Liberal Party, and its pretty coo. After i wuz a Page in the Legislature (i did errands for the members of government) i decide that the Ontario Provincial Liberals had good leadership and awesome values. Funny thing, my friend just joined the Ontario PC (grrr.........). Well, i don't think I would join the Federal Liberals, they've gotten to much away from the vision they once had.

anywayz, wut political parties do u guys belong to, or believe in?? post a comment!!

February 11, 2002 | 9:05 PM Comments  0 comments

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dolphus Dolphus
February 11, 2002 | 10:29 PM
wha?
how exactly do you become an official member of the Liberals? Don't you have to be a certain age and get elected and what not... or are you talking about a different type of member.... *confuzzeled*
but either way... that is excellent.
i dont' believe in politics.. they're just about trying to screw us over :P
mfurdyk Michael Furdyk
February 12, 2002 | 12:58 AM
PC
Well, I'm not particularly in sync with the values and such of each party, but I do support change and balanced budgets, and although I'm sure we can all easily point to leaders from all parties in the past who have screwed things up, my current faith lies in the PC party, and hopefully a forward thinking, youngish replacement for Mike Harris. I'm rooting for Jim Flaherty :)

dolphus, I just joined the PC party online. It's $10, you get to vote at interim party elections when the current leader steps down before a general public election (I can vote for the premier). You have to be 14 years old.
mfurdyk Michael Furdyk
February 12, 2002 | 1:00 AM
membership
Oh, and membership just means being someone who "officially" supports the party, and can vote. Being an Member of Parliment (MP) or Member of Provincial Parliment (MPP) is a voted-in thing, and you have to be 18, I think. I should try to be an MP or MPP. Hehe :) I'd have to beat some pretty tough contenders in my riding though, Allan Rock and Chris Stockwell I think.
jdawg Jason Apostol
February 12, 2002 | 9:07 AM
politiks
mike explained it dolphus. just go on-line or call them and for about $10 you become an 'official' member. You have to be 14 and once your registered, you get to vote for the party leader etc.

mike, i guess I'll see you on the other side of the floor when we get elected in!!

btw, are there any NDPers in the house????

ttyl!
-jdawg
nick Nick Moraitis
February 18, 2002 | 10:38 PM
haha
PC = The Progressive Conservative Party?

That's almost as much of an oxymoron as Mexico's Institutional Revolutionary Party! :)

Cheers,
Nick

p.s. J, can you give me a rundown on the differences in belief/approach by the different parties in Canada? In what way are the progressive conservatives progressive?? :) Socially? Isn't that what liberals are?
Or are they economically progressive and morally conservative? i must say i'm rather confused...

jdawg Jason Apostol
February 19, 2002 | 4:05 PM
confused
nick, no one in the world actually understands politics, we're all confused in some way or other!!!!

good guess! ur right PC=progressive conservative.

(These bits are about the Parties Provincially, and although the federal parties are very similar, they are different in some ways to.!)
as for a rundown, it's quite difficult, but i'll tell you the main points.

LIBERALS - Philosophy: Their party gives you the strong ladder and all the education and health you need to climb that ladder. it's your responsibility to climb the ladder, but you do get help on the way! also, they feel that "the system" etc. is generally fine, they just want to make improvement and make it better!
WING - Leaning quite steeply to the left, just leaning!

PC's - Philosophy - i dont have an analogy, but I know they are very business and economically driven, pretty much only helping those who have climbed high up the ladder. In my opinion, they hate thos on the bottom.!!
WING - Leaning Right

NDP(New Democratic Party)- Socialist, Party of Canada, all about equal oppourtunities, i'd say they like an escalator!!
WING-LEFT!
(I would join the NDP, but their leadership doesn't seem quite stable and good enough qulity to act as government right now!)

Well, thats about 3 of the main parties in Ontario, (federally, there is the Canadian Alliance (right wing, pro-life, religous) and the Bloc Quebecois(who want Quebec Province to split up from the rest of Canada.

Well, that's my 2 minute summary of the political party, i would go into detail, but this is hopefuly enoguh for now!!!

nick, what about australias parties??? someone was saying the GREEN party is in power????

-jdawg
nick Nick Moraitis
February 25, 2002 | 7:34 PM
thanks
thanks for the little rundown jason.

in australia its all quite confused.

The liberal party is actually the conservative party. They are in government at the moment. They are aligned with business. over the last few years they have become much morally conservative than they used to be. the main things they've done are things like cut back workers' rights, pay people to join private health insurance (rather than use the free public health), cut back university funding, legislate away the rights of Indigenous people to their native land, made it harder for refugees etc. So they're the baddies! :)

Then there is the Labor party. They are allied with unions (a bit like the Democrats in the US). Traditionally they are into public healthcare and education. When they were last in power (1982-1996) they were actually very economic driven however, privitising things like Qantas and the Commonwealth Bank. Supposedly they care more for average people. Most recently, they've been pretty bad on the refugee issue too but many people within the party are very unhappy about how harsh their line is. Previously they had been known this decade for increasing Australia's connection to Asia and pushing for us to become a Republic.

The Australian Democrats are a moderate sized party that currently holds the balance of power (ie. the government sort of has to get them to agree to pass laws). Their leader is a very nice 30 year old woman (which is a change!) who is principled. The problem is you don't really know what any of the rest of their senators stand for, and because they always are under enormous pressure to compromise to what the government wants (passing laws) it's sort of difficult for them.

the greens picked up a massive increase in vote (but off a very very small base) in the last election to hold now about 6% of the votes. mostly this was off the Democrats. It doesn't sound like much but it is a big change - they are quite radical and can make a difference in the australian parliament structure.

so that's the story!
nick Nick Moraitis
February 25, 2002 | 7:36 PM

i voted green and democrat in the last election :)
jdawg Jason Apostol
March 7, 2002 | 10:35 AM
wow!
thanks nick! i never thought the party name could differ so greatly country to country.

In Canada, the "Green Party" hardly appears on voting ballots, I think they have only had 1 opposition seat in one of the provincial(state) governments ever! hopefully, one day, they'll be better recognized.........

-jdawg:)
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